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Florida Urged To Change Rights-Restoration Rules For Felons PDF Print E-mail
Written by Janet Zink, St. Petersburg Times   
Sunday, 15 March 2009 00:00

Advocates are urging the state to make it easier for felons to have their civil rights restored.

As Gov. Charlie Crist met last week with members of his Cabinet to consider requests from felons who want their civil rights restored, the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition planned events throughout the state to call attention to what it says are problems with the process.

A report released Wednesday by the American Civil Liberties Union, a member of the coalition, calls for Crist and the Cabinet, sitting as the Board of Executive Clemency, to change the rules.

Among other things, the coalition wants the state to stop requiring felons to pay restitution before winning back the right to vote.

''In a lot of states, people can vote even while incarcerated or on supervision,'' said Muslima Lewis, author of the report.

The report also calls for removing rights restoration as a requirement for getting a state-issued occupational license or job that requires state certification.

Crist issued an executive order in 2007 allowing civil rights restoration, including voting rights, for some nonviolent felons without having to plead their cases to the Executive Clemency Board.

''I am committed to ensuring that those who pay their debt to society have the opportunity to regain their right to choose our nation's leaders,'' Crist said in a statement released late Wednesday touting the changes.

More than 138,000 people have had their rights restored in the past two years, compared with about 83,000 in the 12 years before that. But the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition says hundreds of thousands of people are waiting.

Changing the rules of clemency requires support of the governor and two other members of the Executive Clemency Board.




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avatar DeanDR
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"The report also calls for removing rights restoration as a requirement for getting a state-issued occupational license or job that requires state certification."

Recall the in-depth special report in the Herald: 10,000 convicted felons in Florida allowed to work as mortgage brokers.

You think we would learn?
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avatar lawwmann24
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There are a number of jobs that do not require the Restoration of Civil Rights. Jobs such as lawyers, nurses, doctors and teachers require hearings before thier respective boards. You would be surprised to see how many felons have gone on to become doctors, lawyers, nurses and other productive members of society. I am speaking as an ex-felon.
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avatar DeanDR
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Fair enough. And maybe formal hearings (with accountablity) should be required. A 19 year-old's felony joy ride can be overlooked when he is 37 and wants to teach school. The public concern is over the "blanket amnesty" approach.
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Don't fall for this Charlie. All you are doing is creating more Democratic voters.
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avatar Michelle H.
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How would this affect their rights to purchase guns I wonder?
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avatar lawwmann24
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You can apply for a basic Restoration of Civil Rights or the Restoration of Civil Rights with the Authority to Own a Firearm. They would have to be conviction and arrest for 10 years since their last conviction. Most felons will never qualify for this.
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avatar Billy_Mays
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MOST OF THESE CONVICTED FELONS ARE BLACK. BLACKS ALWAYS VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS. ALWAYS. THIS ISN'T ABOUT RESTORING RIGHTS FOR HUMANITARIAN OR ETHICAL REASONS. IT'S ABOUT KEEPING DEMOCRATS IN POWER. CHARLIE CRIST IS A CLOSET DEMOCRAT, AMONGST OTHER THINGS.
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You would think by now it wouldn't matter as to race. I was born in Florida and I moved to California because of the way that state treats Blacks. Only to learn that this tainted and ignorant attitude has its foundation so deeply rooted until it really doesn't matter where blacks live, they will always be looked upon as though there's something wrong with their race. For a change ask our Creator why He feels that Blacks are okay, seeing that the earth belongs to Him, and that no one really wants His thoughts on the matter. Being the pitiful and selfish human race we are. This instituted racist rhetoric can only be changed through Divine intervention and how welcomed that will be, it is here all will see real SUPERIORITY. Grow up and then expand and stop being a slave to ideals that only stamp how imperfect we all are. Afterall Blacks were brought here to be mistreated. What a host this country is. Bigotry and all,this is my view on the growth of the human race after these many years. And so it can be told there is no place on earth where true equality exist except in Heaven whic is probably why none of us are there. Whatever your race is,just what part did you play personally in that decision?
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avatar jayjg
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There's honor among felons/politicians.
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avatar AnthonyBJR
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This is a good step. I know of many people who have made mistakes in their younger and have paid their debt to society. None would have voted for a democrap. By the way, there is no difference between the democrap and the re-pubic parties. The political parties are the same. Since they are the political class, no matter what we try, they will always have control over our lives in one way or another unless we have a another American revolution, so get over it. This civil rights restoration is not about getting more democraps or re-pubicans. It is about restoring what was taken from you AFTER you have paid your time to the state.

Why is it that if someone is imprisoned and they serve their time, they are still having to pay for it by not being allowed to vote or obtain an occupational license so that they can start their own business? Are they now supposed to pay for their crime for the rest of their life? This is one of the few things that Crist has done RIGHT.
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avatar observer1728
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We currently have a situation where many felons get their rights restored without even having to apply. In addition, we have an established procedure for all of the other felons to apply and be considered for reinstatement. We even have a procedure which allows them to become lawyers, doctors, accountants, etc. In some cases, felons might be required to pay restitution to the victims harmed by their criminal acts. The problem is WHAT...exactly?
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avatar Brandon
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The problem is that the systems in place aren't working the way they're supposed to, and Florida's continued disfranchisement sets us apart not only from every other state, but virtually developed democracy in the world. I highly suggest you and everyone else get educated about the reality of the situation -- http://www.knowmyrights.org/kb/publications/florida-voting-rights-report.html
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avatar observer1728
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Not working the way they're supposed to...according to WHO? To the victims, general citizenry of Florida, or the felons and ACLU?

Suppressing laughter as well as I possibly can, I have to tell you that I don't lose sleep over some CONVICTED felon not being able to vote...or anything else. There are many groups of people I care about. Convicted felons (knowing how many times they had to go through the system to end up with an actual CONVICTION on their record) are not one of the groups I care about. If you don't like it here, move to a more "enlightened" place.

20% of 5 million...That's only 1 million convicted felons in Florida who can't vote. No biggie. Move to CA or MA -- you'll love it there!
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avatar Brandon
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According to common sense?! Read the report... Educate yourself on the facts. Then, if you truly believe that Florida has accomplished what it set out to do regarding clemency and the restoration of rights, that's fine by me. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, but isn't an opinion rooted in a comprehensive understanding of the facts better than one from a place of ignorance?

With the breadth of nonviolent crimes that are felonies under Florida law, that convicted felon could easily one day be your brother or sister, son or daughter, mother or father, best friend, or even you. And it only takes ONE time "through the system" to get a conviction on your record. Or you can skip the system and just plead guilty... Same difference.

I’m a native Floridian, and I like it here. Just think what this country would be if our founding fathers had your attitude?! There are two kinds of people in the world – those who see something wrong and do something about it, and those who say “that sucks” and just ignore it. When I see something that needs fixing, I stand up and fix it. You’re clearly the other type of person.
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avatar dlashb
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In the State of Florida, crime pays. You can be convicted of a felony and still be able to vote. This is absolutely unbelievable how crime codling advocates have destroyed this state and the country. Our founding fathers should be rolling in there graves over this one.
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avatar Brandon
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Of more than 5 million ex-felons who have fully satisfied their debts to society and are still being denied basic voting rights, almost 20% reside in Florida. I don't know which is more disturbing -- the reality of that fact, or the thought that there are actually people like you who relish the suppression of anyone's basic rights as citizens.
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avatar Gino70
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Don't worry folks, convicted felons will never see their civil rights as long as Chain Gang Charlie runs the show. Plus 2 votes from the parole board now referred to as the clemency board. Would you vote yourself out of a job, especially in this economy? Florida will continue to make it difficult to get a job so ex-cons will continue to do what they know best, placing a gun next to your head and taking the money, they've gotta pay the rent somehow. Nobody seems to realize that these folks have a wife and kids and they suffer the consequences along with the ex-con. The right to vote is not important since most of the politicians are more corrupt than the ex-con but it is the occupational licenses that are important to them so they can take a new direction in life.
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avatar wavemaster
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Felons who've finished their time should have their voting rights reinstated upon release, period.

Laws preventing fully discharged ex-cons from voting are a backdoor version of gerrymandering. Florida and Texas are good at that. Gerrymandering is itself a crime, a felony if I'm not mistaken.
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avatar Gino70
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I don't understand how felons are not allowed to vote in federal elections when prisoners in Maine and Vermont can vote in all elections including the Presidential Elections. That should be the legal issue and if Florida felons were allowed to vote in these elections you can imagine the fiasco every four years until they finally removed these racially biased laws. By the way our forefathers did not creat the law in Florida, it was created in 1869 long after the founders of this country had died.
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